Who cleans the kitchen. I want to price this before I buy, not after

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Reading through house agreements people have posted and the cleaning section is where they all get vague. "Residents keep common areas tidy" is doing a lot of work in one sentence.

Three ways to handle it as far as I can tell:

Build a cleaner into the operation. Somebody comes every week or two, does kitchen, bathrooms, floors, common areas, and it's paid out of rent that you set high enough to cover it. Tenants never argue about it because it isn't theirs to argue about.
Charge it as a separate line. Rent is $700, cleaning fee is $45, itemized. Everyone sees what they're paying for.
Leave it to the house. Chore rotation in the agreement, and you enforce it when someone complains.

Option 1 sounds like fewer phone calls and more money out. On a four room house at $120 a visit twice a month that's $2,880 a year, which is real against a room rent of $700. Option 3 is free until it isn't, and my guess is the cost shows up as turnover instead, because the tenant who does clean gets tired of the one who doesn't and leaves.

I can't tell if option 2 is just option 1 with extra explaining, or if the itemization genuinely changes behavior because people treat a paid service differently than a favor.

What did you land on and did you change it later?

aaron_fitz10 · Answer

Option 3 is how I'd have written it a year ago and I've now watched two friends give up on chore charts inside six months. The complaint never arrives as "the kitchen is dirty," it arrives as "I'm not renewing." By then you've paid for it and you don't even get to see the invoice.

carlos_nunez · Answer

I run option 1 on a five room house and the number I'd correct in your math is scope. My cleaner does not touch dishes, food, or anything on a counter that belongs to a person. She does surfaces, bathrooms, floors, trash out. That's 90 minutes, twice a month, and it's $85 a visit here. If you ask a cleaner to deal with other people's dishes you're paying for a housekeeper and the price doubles.

The thing that actually keeps a shared kitchen usable is trash. Whoever takes the cans to the curb is the whole game. I put trash day in the agreement with names attached to weeks and I still get texts about it in month two of every new tenant.

devon_pierce · Answer

@quarry that scope split is the part I hadn't thought about. So the cleaner keeps the house from degrading and the tenants still have to live with each other's mess day to day. Does that mean you're really paying for the asset, not for the tenants' comfort?

Rena Expert · Answer

@bramble that framing is close. A recurring cleaner on shared space protects two different things and they have different economics.

The first is wear. Shared kitchens and bathrooms in a room-rental house see several times the traffic of the same rooms in a single-household lease, and grout, cabinet faces, and flooring degrade on a shorter clock. Paid cleaning slows that. You are converting a capital item that shows up as a $4,000 bathroom refresh in year six into an operating line of a few hundred dollars a month. Whether that trade is good depends on your hold period. On a long hold it usually is. If you plan to sell in two years, you are paying now for a benefit that lands after you're out.

The second is turnover, which is where the larger money sits. A room turn costs you the clean, the marketing time, and the empty days. If a cleaner removes the most common source of resident friction, and dishes and bathrooms usually are, the return shows up as tenants who stay an extra few months. That is the assumption the whole answer depends on. If your friction is noise, guests, or parking, cleaning spends money on the wrong problem and you should fix the agreement instead.

On option 2, disclosure is the part to get right. Bundling versus itemizing changes what your rent number looks like against comps, and some states and cities regulate how mandatory fees are presented in rental advertising. Confirm your local rules before you split the line, and put whichever structure you choose in the written agreement with the scope of service spelled out. A cleaning term that doesn't say what gets cleaned is an argument waiting for a date.

nicole_adeyemi · Answer

Itemizing has one advantage nobody has said yet. When a tenant asks for more cleaning, an itemized fee gives you a way to say yes for money instead of saying no. Bundled rent means every request is a fight about whether it was already included.

gregpowell66 · Answer

The thing that decides your cleaning bill is surfaces, and you pick those before anyone moves in. Solid surface counters and a mid-grade LVP take abuse from six adults. Laminate with a seam near the sink swells inside a year and then you're replacing a counter instead of wiping it. Same with paint, satin or eggshell on common area walls washes, flat doesn't and you repaint hallways every turn.

I'd spend $1,500 more at renovation to knock $50 a month off cleaning and defer a refresh by three years. That's an easy trade and it's only available before you're leased up.

karen_whitfield · Answer

Option 1, and I'd stop thinking of it as a cleaning decision. It's the same reason I don't ask tenants to mow. Anything where the house's condition depends on a volunteer eventually costs you the house's condition. @quill your $2,880 is high for what @quarry described, and if you can get it to $2,000 it's about 6% of gross on a four room house at $700. I'd pay that all day for one fewer recurring argument.

Who cleans the kitchen. I want to price this before I buy, not after

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