Is Indianapolis actually worth the flight from California or should I just keep buying tired landlords in Tulsa
I'm in Tulsa and Durham, not California, but I keep watching West Coast guys on Facebook groups talk about Indy like it's the only market left that pencils. So I ran it myself. A gut flip I'm looking at in Tulsa right now is a 1958 ranch, $62k purchase, $74k estimated rehab top to bottom, new HVAC, electrical panel, full kitchen and bath, drywall throughout, ARV around $195k. That leaves me enough margin that I can absorb two bad weeks with the subs and still walk away okay. The Indianapolis comps people keep sending me are putting purchase at $85k to $95k, similar rehab costs because labor is not dramatically cheaper, and ARVs in the $210k to $225k range in the neighborhoods I've looked at. The spread sounds similar until you add in that I have no relationships in Indy. No GC I've shaken hands with, no sub who picks up on a Sunday, no title company that knows how to close fast when something weird comes up in the chain. The last flip I did in Tulsa I found my plumber at 7am on a Saturday because he owed me a favor from a job two years ago. That saved me six days on a draw schedule. Six days on a hard money loan at $48 a day is not nothing. The California guys flying into Indy are starting from zero on all of that, same as I would be, and the spread does not cover the learning curve plus the plane tickets plus the two weeks of delays that hit every first project in a new city. I'm not saying Indy is wrong. I'm saying I'd want to see $40k in margin before I'd go somewhere cold to me, and the deals people are actually closing there seem to be landing at $28k to $33k after carrying costs. That's too thin to learn a new market on.