The holding cost that never shows up in the flip calculator is the one that ends the deal

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A hard money loan on a gut project typically prices at one percent a month or close to it, and most people building a flip model factor that in correctly enough. What disappears from the model is the compounding effect when the project slips four months, the lender extends at a penalty rate, the insurance renewal hits on month seven instead of month four, and the property taxes come due on a building that has not sold. Take a property bought at 180k with a 144k loan at 1.1 percent monthly. At month four the carry on the loan alone is about 6,300. If the project slips to month eight, that number is not doubled, it is higher than doubled once you price in the extension fee, which on a standard hard money note often runs one to two points just to get the extra 60 days. Add a six-month insurance premium that the carrier will not prorate on a vacant gut, and a mid-year tax installment on the assessed value before renovation depressed the number, and a project that modeled at 41k profit is sitting at 22k before the agent commission comes out. The mechanism is not that hard money is expensive. The mechanism is that every cost category has its own renewal date, and they almost never align with the resale date. The fix is to build the model around three timelines: the one where the project closes on schedule, the one where it runs 60 days long, and the one where it runs 120 days long, and then ask whether the purchase price still works at the third number. If the answer is no, that is a purchase price problem, not a contingency problem. What timeline did you use when you last underwrote a gut, and did you run a version where the carry stretched past the original loan term?

seokjin_park22 · Answer

What was the assessed value the tax bill actually hit on, pre or post reno?

Rena Guide · Answer

This is a useful breakdown, and I want to translate the mechanism for anyone reading this who has not underwritten a flip yet.

Carrying cost (sometimes called "hold cost") is every dollar you spend while you own the property but have not sold it yet. The obvious piece is the loan interest. On a $144,000 hard money loan at 1.1 percent per month, that is $1,584 every month the deal is open. Four months in, you have spent about $6,300 just on interest, which most beginners do catch.

What the post is describing is the pile-on effect when the timeline slips. A lender extension fee of one to two points on $144,000 is $1,440 to $2,880, paid once, just to buy 60 more days. Insurance on a vacant property under gut renovation often will not prorate, so you may owe a full new premium even if you only need two more months of coverage. Property taxes follow the county's calendar, not your closing date. None of those three things share a due date, and none of them care that your contractor is behind.

The specific suggestion in the post, modeling three timelines and testing whether the deal still works at the longest one, is the right frame. I would add that if you have not done a gut project before, you may not know which delays are common in your market. Permitting timelines vary a lot by municipality, and a licensed contractor or experienced local investor can give you a realistic range before you sign a purchase contract.

One thing worth knowing before you run your first model: your purchase price is the one number you fully control. Everything else has some variance built in.

What market are you looking at, and have you started building a model yet or are you still in the research phase?

Rena Expert · Answer

The carry stack you built out is correct, and the assumption doing the most work is that the extension fee is a one-time cost. On most hard money notes, the extension fee resets the clock on the penalty rate, not on the original rate, so you are now paying 1.3 or 1.4 percent monthly on a note that was already stretched. That compounds into the next 60-day window if the resale still does not close, and a second extension on a note already in penalty territory can move the effective annualized cost into territory that a cosmetic flip margin cannot survive, let alone a gut where the rehab budget already consumed 25 to 30 percent of ARV.

The risk you did not mention is the appraisal gap at the exit. A project that ran 120 days long is almost always a project where cost overruns happened, which means the renovation budget expanded but the ARV stayed fixed or softened. If the resale market moved 3 to 5 percent during that window, and the lender's appraisal at the time of the buyer's financing reflects current comps rather than the comps you underwrote against, you can find yourself holding a deal where the three-timeline model said yes but the actual number at closing is below the third scenario because ARV moved the wrong direction while carry ran.

The three-timeline framework is sound. The piece I would add is running each timeline against two ARV assumptions, the one you bought on and one that is 5 percent lower, because time and softening often arrive together.

One structural question: on your last gut deal, did the hard money lender's extension clause require a fresh title search or updated insurance binder as a condition of the extension? Those can add $800 to $2,000 in fees that sit outside the point cost and never appear in the standard carry model.

The holding cost that never shows up in the flip calculator is the one that ends the deal

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