Quoting turns on a 96-unit. How do I price the empty days?
Owner of a 96-unit walkup asked me to quote all their turns for a year. I've done renovations for six years, mostly single houses and small flips, so the work itself doesn't worry me. The pricing does.
What they do now: in-house maintenance guy plus whoever's available, average turn cost $2,850, average 21 days from move-out to rent-ready. Average rent is $1,340, so a day empty costs about $44. Twenty-one days is roughly $924 of lost rent per turn on top of the $2,850. They turn about 40 units a year at 42% turnover.
What I think I can do: 8 days, with a two-person crew plus a painter, at $3,400 a unit. So I'm $550 more expensive per turn and I hand back 13 days, which is $572 of rent. That's basically a wash on paper, which is a terrible pitch.
Where I think the real money is: their $2,850 includes stuff they redo every 24 months because they buy the cheapest everything. If I put in better flooring and a proper paint spec, the next turn is $1,900 instead of $2,850. But that's a benefit that shows up after I'm gone, and I can't put it in a quote convincingly.
The decision in front of me is flat price per turn or time and materials with a cap. Flat is easier to sell and I own the risk. Time and materials protects me on the units that are wrecked, and about one in six is genuinely wrecked, smoke or pets or a hoarding situation. Last one of those I saw would have been $9,000.
I also don't know how to staff this. Forty turns a year isn't forty even months, it's fourteen in the summer and two in January.