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Watched a refinance shrink because the third bedroom got written up as a den

A woman from my book club refinances houses for a living, and when I asked how the appraisal part actually works she told me to come watch one instead of reading about it. So I sat on a folding chair in the front room of a finished three bedroom with new floors and the paint smell still in it.

The appraiser was polite and quick. He measured, took photos, asked when the roof was done. Then in the back bedroom he stopped at the window, put his tape across the opening, and wrote something down without saying a word about it.

Two weeks later she called me. He had written the house up as a two bedroom with a den. The window in that back room was original and too small to count as egress, and she had never touched it because that room was already framed and painted when she bought the place. Every comp she had picked was a three bedroom. Value came back about 22k under what she had underwritten, so the cash-out left roughly 19k of her own money sitting in the house instead of almost none.

She wasn't even angry. She said the window is a 1,400 dollar problem she should have caught on the first walkthrough, and now it is also a several month problem, because the fix has to happen and then the appraisal has to happen again.

I have read the five steps of this thing maybe thirty times and not one version mentions a tape measure across a window opening.

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Egress cutting is the cheapest expensive job we do. The window and the labor are small. The masonry patch, the header, the permit and the inspector's schedule are what actually eat the month. 1,400 sounds like she got a friend price on the unit only.

And her appraiser did her a favor by being consistent, honestly. The ones who count it as a bedroom on the purchase appraisal and a den on the refi are the ones who ruin your year.

I had been reading for six months and the question of who decides what counts as a bedroom never came up. I assumed it was on the tax card and that was that.

@pike the tax card is often wrong in both directions, which is the part that got me. I've started carrying a tape on walkthroughs since a similar story last spring. Takes ten seconds per window and I've already crossed one house off over it.

Mine was worse. Previous owner had turned the garage into a family room, drywall, heat, floor, all of it, no permits anywhere in the county file. My appraiser refused to count the square footage at all and wouldn't use the two comps I'd picked because both of them had real garages.

Came in low enough that I left about 30k in the deal. That 30k was supposed to be the down payment on the next one. It's still in there. That house is fine, the tenant is great, and my repeat step just stopped for eight months while I rebuilt cash from income.