Someone at a conference yesterday told me that his fund has never taken a deed and treats every conversion as a failure.
That stopped me. I have been underwriting lien pools for about eight months now on the capital allocation side, and I built my whole model around the assumption that deed conversion is a backstop, maybe 4 to 6 percent of certificates, and that you price those parcels conservatively but you price them. His fund is in Florida and New Jersey, combined pool around 28 million, and he said the moment a certificate ages past 24 months without redemption they start working the owner, not the parcel. Phone calls, letters, payment plans, whatever it takes to get a check. He said their conversion rate is under 0.5 percent across four years. I asked him what that does to his yield and he said it holds at about 7.1 net to LP because the redemption rate on the rest of the book is fast enough that they can redeploy. The deed pipeline just never builds. I went back to my model that night and I realized I had basically been underwriting a real estate acquisition business with a lien wrapper, and maybe the operators who are actually good at this are running something closer to a collections operation. Those are not the same skill set and I do not think I was pricing that difference at all.