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I bought in Cleveland suburbs and the math worked because I was there. Garfield Heights duplex, I was in one unit, tenant in the other, the numbers cleared by maybe $200 a month a…
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The standard advice is to run a credit check, verify income at three times the rent, call the previous landlord, and trust your gut on the rest. That framework is not wrong, it ju…
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$2,400 a month. That's what a decent second-floor unit in a Hartford two-family rents for right now, and I keep circling back to it every time someone asks me whether a condo make…
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Take a conventional owner-occupant loan at 5 percent down on a 350k house. The note says principal residence. The borrower lives there 12 months, plans to convert, and then finds…
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This was Durham, March of last year. Single family I had moved out of 18 months prior, converted clean, tenant had been there eight months without a hiccup. She lost a week of hou…
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Acquisition was $187,000 in Albuquerque's South Valley, 3.5 down, FHA, closed in February. At the time Zillow and Rentometer were both showing comparable 3-beds renting between $1…
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I converted the place in Tucson in March 2023 and moved to Portland for work. Figured I could handle it myself, save the 8% management fee, maybe $140 a month on a $1,750 rent. Fo…
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Bought 14 months ago at 5 percent down conventional, 6.875 percent, PITI 2,610 with escrow. Property taxes reassessed on my purchase price in year one and went up 380 a year, whic…
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Four financed properties including the current primary. Gross income about $11,000 a month, ratio sitting around 44 percent by the way my lender counts it, which means the next ow…
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This is the loss post. It went fine on paper and then I ran out of money. Bought a 3 bed ranch at 244,000, 3.5 percent down FHA, so 8,540 down and about 6,600 in closing after a s…
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For someone who wants income that does not turn into a second job, this strategy is usually the version they can actually qualify for. What does not settle easily is the pace. The…
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Say a buyer's first house is bought and occupied, so the next decision on rung two is still a year out but worth understanding now. To fund a down payment on the next property, th…
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Two owner-occupant structures run against the same $340k house, three bed, 1990s, in a submarket where it rents for about $2,450 today. The quotes below are from last month, and r…
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First house, 3 bed ranch from the seventies in a mid-priced suburb, $268k, 3.5 percent down on an FHA loan, so $9,380 down and about $7,000 in closing costs. Full payment was $2,1…
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Take a live-in-then-rent buyer at month 11 in the current house, deciding between two orders of operations, with lenders giving conflicting guidance on which one helps. Order A: f…
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I keep poking holes in strategies and this is the one that survives every objection I throw at it. Buy as an owner occupant, live there the required year, convert to rental, repea…
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Finished this one last spring, so I've had time to be calm about it. Bought a 1963 ranch, 1,450 square feet, 246k, 3.5 percent down. Plan was to live in it 12 to 14 months, fix it…
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Writing this out because I want somebody else to catch it earlier than I did. I bought a townhouse at 249k with an FHA loan, 3.5% down, so 8,715 out of pocket plus about 4,200 in…
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I mostly research land and holding patterns, so buying a house to live in feels like a different sport, and I want to check whether I understand the basic shape of this before I s…
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My first purchase is close, and I've started mapping where rungs two and three would come from. Two ways to plan it and they lead to completely different portfolios. Tight radius.…
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Take a live-in-then-rent conversion structured as a 5 percent down conventional purchase on a 3 bed 2 bath in a decent school zone, purchase price 312,000, 15,600 down, 7,100 in c…
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Run the ladder out on paper for a four property sequence and the failure point often isn't where an investor expects. Take property one at 340k, 3.5 percent down FHA, PITI plus MI…
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A gap worth closing, because the origination side of this loan is well understood and the aftermath is where the confusion lives. Say someone buys with 5 percent down as an owner…
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Take a live-in-then-rent portfolio at the point a fourth property closes and the lease on the third property starts the same month, keeping the sequence intact for another year. T…
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An early fork for anyone starting a live-in-then-rent strategy is whether to buy the house that suits the owner-occupant or the house that suits the future tenant. Owner-occupant…
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I have 22k saved and a plan I got from reading too much: buy a house with a low down payment loan, live in it a year, rent it, buy the next one. First conversation with a loan off…
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This strategy keeps coming up as the low money route to rental income for someone who does not want a second job, so it is worth being precise about the entry cost. The pitch: buy…
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Take a duplex bought a bit over two years ago, both sides identical two bed one bath. One side has been the owner's home the whole time, the other side rents for 1,300. PITI on th…
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Modeling acquisition three on paper is where the lending side tends to fall apart, so here is a worked picture. Property one PITI 1,850, market rent around 2,150. Property two PIT…
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A common sequencing plan is to run the live in then rent chain through 2 to 4 unit buildings instead of houses. One building a year, live in a unit, then rent the whole thing out…
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A useful scenario for anyone qualifying for a third live-in-then-rent property: two done, going for the third, and this is where the qualification math stops being theoretical. Pr…
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Reading the loan documents rather than blog posts tends to produce this confusion. The standard security instrument has a covenant saying the borrower will occupy the property as…
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I've been building a spreadsheet for months and I want somebody to tell me what line is missing. Target is a 285k three bed in a working neighborhood about 25 minutes from where I…
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Take an operator three rungs into a live in then rent ladder, where the qualification problem has become bigger than the deal problem. The first two houses sit on owner occupant l…
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Here is a case worth studying for anyone on a second or third conversion. A 1978 split level, 1,640 square feet, bought at 268,000 with 5 percent down as an owner occupant, rate 6…
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Read an occupancy affidavit cover to cover, which apparently nobody does, and it will typically say the borrower intends to occupy as principal residence within 60 days and mainta…
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A common failure point in live-in-then-rent strategies shows up not in the numbers of property one but in qualifying for property two. Take a first property bought at $268k, 3.5 p…