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I am the buyer on this one, which is not my usual seat. Property is a small retail strip in Frederick, Maryland, asking $410,000, and the seller is carrying a new $390,000 wrap at…
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I am sitting on a deal in Fontana right now, seller carry at 4.1 percent, $218,000 remaining, and I had assumed I could wrap at 7.5 and pocket the spread on the full $265,000 sale…
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Say a buyer takes a wrap at 7 percent over an underlying at 3.5 percent on a 280,000 wrap note. The spread looks clean until year four, when the buyer refinances out, the underlyi…
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I run escrow on conventional deals all day and I have never closed a wrap where the underlying was adjustable, so I genuinely do not know how this works in practice. If the seller…
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Picture the buyer's side of a wrap in Phoenix. The underlying is a 2019 VA loan at 3.25, the seller wants to wrap it at 6.5, and the property is $410k. The spread looks fine. The…
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A question a sharp CPA will raise when reviewing syndication K-1s is where the interest actually lands when a deal is structured as a wrap. The payor's interest deduction and the…
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A wrap worth using as a model: a seller owing on an underlying loan around 4 percent sells at a higher price, carries a new note to the buyer at 7 percent on a larger balance, and…
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Take a wrap on a small three unit and lay out two versions of the same deal. Version A: sale at 340k, 10k down, wrap balance 330k at 8 percent. Underlying is 218k at 4.125. Monthl…
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A structure worth studying: a note holder with a wrap wants cash out, and the investor does not want the whole thing. So the investor buys a partial, and what gets bought is the s…
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A theme that shows up in nearly every wraparound mortgage failure story is the same. The buyer stops paying, and the seller still owes the underlying lender, on time, every month,…
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Short version of a wrap in case anyone else is where I was two months ago. A wrap is where the seller keeps her existing mortgage in place and writes me a new, bigger loan on top…
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On the buyer side of a wraparound mortgage, the construction-minded questions are often the right ones. If the seller's underlying mortgage stays in place, whose name goes on the…
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Not doing a deal. Somebody in a local group shared an anonymized wrap note and deed of trust package as a teaching example and I've been going through it clause by clause, which i…
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Before bringing a wraparound mortgage idea to a seller, it helps to price out the closing side in full. Say a 300k sale, a 240k underlying loan around 4 percent, and a wrap note i…
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Take a small management shop with a client who sold a 6-unit on a wraparound mortgage and asked the manager to also handle the payment side, alongside continuing to manage the pro…
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In a wrap, the buyer pays the wrap holder, who pays the underlying lender and keeps the difference, three transfers a month running through one party's hands. That structure raise…
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Working through a structure before I commit to it. Underlying is a 30-year fixed at 3.75 with about 312k left and roughly 26 years to run, payment 1,640 plus escrow. Plan is to se…
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Consider a 60 acre parcel, mixed timber and pasture, two miles off a state route in a slow rural county, originally bought with a bank ag loan around 218k at 4.45%, 20 year amorti…
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Take a wrap where the headline spread is misleading. Underlying: 218k remaining at 3.9, roughly 22 years left, payment 1,430 plus escrow. Proposed wrap: 265k at 7.25 over 30 years…
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Been doing quick turns, 60 to 90 days, buy with hard money at 11.5% and two points, out. Never held anything. Somebody brought me a seller who won't take cash and I don't know how…
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I've got capital sitting and I've been reading about seller financing generally. Wraps came up and I don't follow the source of the return. As I understand it the seller keeps the…
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Reading through the due-on-sale part and I don't understand the risk math. The seller's mortgage says the lender can demand full payment if the property transfers. In a wrap the p…
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Trying to figure out where I fit in this business and wraps keep coming up in every conversation I have, so I read the chapter twice and then read a sample note. Here's the piece…
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Take a duplex with a 3.9 percent loan on it, about 141k remaining. Sell at 215k with 15k down and carry the 200k at 7 percent. The buyer's payment lands around 1,330 and the under…
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Seller owes 118,000 at 3.25 percent on a 1960s ranch that needs about 60,000 of work. She'll wrap at 6.5 percent on a 245,000 price with 25,000 down, 30-year amortization, balloon…
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My first closing ended up being the structure I told myself I'd never start with, after six months of reading. Writing it out because most of what I read about wraps skipped the m…
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Sitting on 41 acres, split-zoned ag and rural residential, bought two years ago with the previous owner carrying 190k at 5.25%, seven year balloon, no prepayment penalty. I've got…
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One video said a wrap and subject-to are basically the same deal with different paperwork, and another said they're completely different and the difference is whether a new note g…
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For anyone building a note servicing offering, wraps are the messiest instrument on the desk. On a straight seller financed note the servicer collects from the buyer and remits to…
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First rental is supposed to close in about six weeks and the seller just changed the shape of the deal on me. Small 3/1 in a working class part of town, asking 245k, I was going t…