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A 160 acre tract in the Ozarks with roughly half cedar and half mixed hardwood has a perpetual conservation easement held by a land trust. The easement permits selective harvest b…
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A 180 acre loblolly tract at age 22 illustrates this cleanly. Say the land appraised at 1,400 per acre at purchase, so 252,000 for the dirt. The timber cruise at entry showed 3.1…
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A 25 acre Cabernet block planted in 2008 sits in an awkward middle: the vines are past the replanting decision, the winery relationships are established, but the owner wants liqui…
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Here is a scenario worth working through. Take a 47 acre block outside Winters, California, planted in 2019. The trees are five years in, so meaningful production is another four…
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Bought it three years ago thinking I'd figure out the farming side as I went, which I mostly have, but this irrigation situation is where I'm stuck. The current system is flood an…
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Closed six weeks ago and I want to write down how it actually went while I still remember the annoying parts. The tract: 210 acres of loblolly pine, average age around 18, one blo…
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My first rental closes in a few months and I've been reading outside that lane to figure out where the rest of the money eventually goes. Timberland comes up constantly as the thi…
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A useful exercise: run the numbers on a 22 planted acre established vineyard block, seller asking 41,000 an acre all in for land, vines, trellis, and a shared well interest, call…
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A common structure for someone who wants income from an orchard without farming it is to buy the crop and lease out the farming. Take 60 acres of mature pecans, trees mostly 25 to…
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Take a borrower bringing 300 acres, appraised at 1.6 million, with the appraiser splitting it into 900k of land and 700k of standing timber. The underwriting question worth workin…
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This started as a flip. 1940s farmhouse, decent bones, 168k in at auction, and I figured 60k of work and out at 310. The listing said "12+ acres" and I read that as land, which ar…
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Worth studying as a case: 240 acres of pine in mixed-age condition, listed at 1.02M, sitting for seven months. The listing mentioned an active timber sale in one line, and few buy…
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The number usually quoted for timberland is a standard deviation around 6.9 percent against almost 16 for the S&P, with long-run annualized returns near 10.7 since the index start…
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I read the NCREIF timberland volatility figure three times before it bothered me. Around 6.9 percent standard deviation against roughly 16 for public equities, and the properties…
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Take an appraisal that comes back at 2,850 an acre on a 420 acre pine tract, split as bare land 1,650 and standing timber 1,200. Say the cruise puts merchantable volume around 38…
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Looking at a 90 acre parcel listed with a timber cruise attached. The listing says something like 40 acres of merchantable pine plus the rest in younger growth. My assumption was…
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First land purchase, so please poke holes. 60 acres, mixed pine and hardwood, asking 145,000, so about 2,400 an acre. Seller is an estate and there's no rush on their side. Here's…
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Take an offering for a mature almond block, roughly 320 planted acres, trees around year 11 of a stated 22 to 25 year productive life. The seller pro forma runs on full surface al…
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Bought this two years ago as the boring end of a portfolio that's otherwise flips and a small BRRRR stack. Loblolly plantation, planted in a good year, 310 acres of which about 28…
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Take a 70 acre parcel in a cheap rural county, 46 acres in an old navel citrus block, the rest pasture and a shed. Say the contract price is 392k, or 5,600 an acre, rich for bare…
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A useful cautionary case in permanent crop acquisitions. Take an 88 acre vineyard in a cool-climate wine region, 71 planted, average vine age 18 years across five blocks, asking $…
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Timberland keeps coming up as the boring asset that holds up, largely because of the return profile people cite, roughly 10.7 percent annualized since 1987 on the NCREIF index wit…
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Trying to get the two paths straight in my head before I spend money on either. Path one is public shares in a timber company or a fund that holds forestland. You can buy a hundre…
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Working through what happens if the thing burns. On a pine tract, most of the value sits in the standing inventory, and a single fire or a hurricane track can take a large share o…
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Small tract, pine, first commercial thinning is technically due. A thinning is where you cut maybe a third of the stems to give the rest room to grow, and the wood that comes out…
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Two listings make a useful comparison for anyone weighing a first productive-land purchase, because they sit at opposite ends of the same decision. The first: 70 acres of planted…
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Take a 1,400 acre southern pine tract, mixed ages, roughly 40 percent in sawtimber-eligible stems by the cruise. Base case underwriting assumes stumpage roughly flat in real terms…
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This isn't the rental I've been posting about. My parents' neighbor is selling 35 acres about two hours out, mostly mixed hardwood with maybe 8 acres of planted pine along the roa…
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A case worth studying on buying cutover timberland and replanting, where the deal worked but the timing cost a season. Cutover means the timber is already harvested, so the buyer…
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Everything I read about timberland is written for people buying 20,000 acres. I'm at the other end. What's the realistic smallest way in, and what are the ongoing costs nobody lis…
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Permanent crop investing is a genuinely different discipline from residential real estate, and an operator coming from small multifamily should expect the water question to domina…
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Take an investor holding a PPM for a closed-end timberland fund, ten year term with two one-year extensions, and running it against a 400-odd acre direct purchase. The question is…
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The feature that draws most people to timber is the ability to not cut when stumpage is bad. That deferral option is the thing actually being bought. At roughly 400k, though, a me…
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Take a 140 acre cutover parcel where the timber cruise supports maybe half the asking price, with frontage on a county road, a creek, established food plots, and a broker who says…