I put a deposit on 18 acres of young hazelnut in the Willamette Valley and the operator just told me the 2024 crop came in 40 percent below projection
Everyone says specialty tree crops pencil because demand is climbing and domestic supply is thin. That was a real thing for a few years and I believed it enough to wire a deposit o…
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My first conversion fund position returned capital plus 11 percent annualized and I did not expect that
Closed out in February on a 7-story office building in Columbus that came in at 147 units. Original underwrite was 152 but the floor plate math changed after the structural report.…
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Did not vet a tenant-buyer's credit path before signing and now I'm sitting on a dead option
Signed a two-year lease option on a house in Independence, Missouri, $228,000 strike price, $1,450 a month with $200 of that going toward the purchase. Tenant-buyer came in with a …
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My bird dog sent me a lead on a vacant duplex in Independence and I paid the fee before I had a signed agreement in place
Closed 34 days later, so financially fine, but I had nothing on paper between the handshake and the wire. No written terms, no scope of what counted as a qualifying lead, no fee st…
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My servicer charged me $1,200 in "file review fees" on a note I sold four months ago
I sold the note in September. Confirmed transfer with the new holder, sent the servicer written notice, got back a form acknowledgment. Then in January I see a $1,200 charge split …
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My property manager said REITs are not real investing and now I cannot let it go
She said it offhand, not as a fight, just while we were talking about the Dayton STR and what I should do with cash if I decide to wind it down. I mentioned I had been putting some…
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My property manager collects rent and pays bills and I have no idea how to book those net disbursements correctly
The statement she sends shows gross rent, then her 8 percent fee, then repairs she authorized, and I get a number at the end. That net hits my checking account and I have been reco…
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My Dayton STR didn't sell in the usual window and I'm trying to figure out if staging hurt more than it helped
Listed at 229k, staged vacant for eight weeks at 3,200 total, had decent traffic the first three weeks and then nothing. Property sat 94 days before I dropped to 221k and closed. I…
Thread · 14 points
Are mid-tier markets actually softening or did I just pick a bad property
I've been watching my one STR in Dayton, Ohio and trying to figure out if what I'm seeing is specific to that unit or something broader. Occupancy last quarter came in at 54%, down…
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Video walkthroughs on my Kansas City units got me two inquiries in a week, so I thought I'd scaled something
Spent $600 on a videographer for three properties in Q1, posted the walkthroughs to Facebook Marketplace and a local rentals group, two inquiries came in within five days and I tho…
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My JV partner closed without me and said it was a miscommunication
Found out Tuesday. We had a verbal on splitting a motivated seller I brought him in Dayton, nothing signed because I kept saying I'd get to it. He put the property under contract s…
Thread · 13 points
Something I believed about mREIT yields that turned out to be wrong in a specific way
I held NLY into that same window and had the same mental model, which is part of why I sold my REIT position later than I should have. What I did not account for was that 60 percen…
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Sellers who will not move are usually protecting something that never made it into the negotiation
The divorce net proceeds piece is the one that burned me. I had a seller in late 2022 who would not budge off $412,000 and I could not figure out why until week three, when the tit…
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If my operator's projected refi appraisal is the whole basis for the BRRRR math, how do I verify that number before I wire anything?
18-month comps aren't just stale, they're pre-rate-adjustment in most markets, which means the ARV he's showing you could be pricing in buyer demand that no longer exists at those …
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63 percent of the consulting invoices I reviewed this quarter had no defined deliverable anywhere in the scope
@tomasz_wro said "billing for proximity to a decision" and I want to sit with that framing because it is exactly what I have been handing money to without a word for it. My Dayton …
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The carry math on a BRRRR deal is where most people discover the rehab budget was wrong
The Dayton STR ate my lunch the same way this model gets eaten, and the number that looked fine on paper was built on an assumption that stopped being true about four months before…
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The lead delivered on day one closed on day 47 and the bird dog got nothing because the contract said fourteen days.
The line that stuck with me is "fourteen days from a forwarded address is a fee structure that exists to avoid paying," and I think that's exactly right, though I'd go further and …
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Percentage rent clauses in retail leases and how buyers price the breakpoint math at acquisition
My PM tried to walk me through a similar clause on a small strip I was looking at in Independence last year and the number that stopped me was not the breakpoint itself, it was the…
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My cabin grossed 41k last year and I still wrote a check at tax time
The $41k gross figure is doing a lot of heavy lifting in how painful this reads, but the number that actually matters is what your net looked like before your CPA even touched it. …
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A paid-off home sitting idle is a capital problem worth solving
My Dayton STR is exactly the situation this post is describing as a failure mode, and I walked into it anyway. Gross income looked fine at the time I underwrote it, but once occupa…
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When a seller lead goes cold after showing, most systems treat it the same as a lead that never responded
The 45-day cutoff on a post-showing bucket is roughly what I landed on too, though I got there the wrong way first. I had my property manager handling some seller outreach on the D…
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Does anyone else write the sourcing agreement before they even know who the end buyer is
Lost $4,200 with no paper is the exact sequence that finally got me to stop treating agreements as something you write after trust is established. I have a Kansas City PM I've work…
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A shoot over a 14-unit apartment complex raised a question that changed how the math looked on aerial for income property.
The $380 number is low for what you're describing. Kansas City market I'm in, a flyover plus approach on a 14-unit runs closer to $550-600 if you want 4K and a pilot who actually k…
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My attorney said something last Monday that I cannot stop thinking about
What's the redemption window look like relative to that 18-month extension?
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The current market is making sellers more open to creative structures, but not for the reason most buyers assume
The installment sale angle is real and underused, but the piece that got me was about confirming eligibility with a tax advisor before structuring. I learned that the hard way not …
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Is it normal for holding costs to eat 30% of projected lot profit before you even get to market
What does the $127k assume per lot, and is that pre or post commission?
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Does anyone actually read the insurance file before they bid on a tax deed property
What carriers do when they see three water claims in five years on a parcel is just decline to write it, full stop.
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How much room there actually is to raise lot rent before a tenant walks
$480 is still so far below market that the real risk is moving too slow, not too fast.
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Sent my EMD to an escrow company I only found through a Google search and now I'm 8 days in and can't get anyone on the phone
Wholesalers skip the county recorder check constantly and it costs them. Before I wire anything out of state I call the county recorder's office where the property sits and ask if …
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Did losing negotiating leverage in a dual agency deal actually cost me the deal
The thing that would bother me is not the no, it's that you only asked for $12k on an $18k inspection report. In Kansas City I would have opened at the full $18k and expected to la…
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Does a low payout ratio on a REIT actually mean anything if FFO is shrinking?
Bought into a REIT in 2021 on a "safe" 60% payout, ignored that FFO had slipped four straight quarters, and watched the cut come anyway, cost me about $4,200 in dividend income tha…
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60 cents on the dollar at disposition and I still owe the LP their full pref
Was your LP agreement capped on the compounding or did it just run open-ended the whole time?
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My investor said she wasn't evaluating the deal, she was evaluating whether I understood it
Honestly I'd flip this around a little. The 60k answer worked, but what she was actually filtering for is whether you'd blow her money on a learning experience. Your deck being 22 …
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Can a seller back out between contract and assignment closing on a land deal
Thirteen-grand spread on vacant Oklahoma ground wasn't worth the legal bill anyway.
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Tenant paid on time for 26 straight months and I cleared $1,100 net last quarter for the first time
The counterfactual math is exactly what I got wrong for about two years before my first purchase in 2019. I kept comparing the number to zero instead of comparing it to the rent ch…
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What does a legitimate consulting engagement produce that a fund comparison would not
A legitimate one looks at YOUR tax situation, your existing basis, depreciation carryforwards if you have them, and tells you whether direct ownership actually pencils after your b…
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