Story
This happens more than the room probably admits. A homeowner under financial stress signs something in front of a buyer, then talks to a family member that evening and the family…
Story
A case worth studying: a seller has 190k in confirmed equity on a 340k property, auction set 38 days out, and the investor writes an offer the same week the notice of default is p…
Discussion
Twelve months ago I was looking at numbers closer to 75 and the gap between what made sense to buy and what the seller expected was workable. Now I am seeing 85, 87, 88, and in on…
Happening Now
Pre-foreclosure buyers tend to lean on the same comp set a listing agent would use: closed sales within a half mile, adjusted for condition, run backward from an ARV. That math is…
Happening Now
Guy runs pre-foreclosure deals in three counties, does maybe eight to ten closes a year, told me the sellers who actually pick up the phone are the ones three weeks out, not three…
Win
A case worth laying out with the numbers, because the variance is the lesson. An owner owes 187k with an auction 19 days out. The offer goes in at 231k against a 279k ARV with abo…
Discussion
Been watching this pattern for a few months now. I scope a default lead, request the payoff through the servicer, and the clock on the auction keeps moving while I wait. Three lea…
Poll
I priced out three ways to get notice-of-default leads in the two counties I can drive and the spread is bigger than I expected. Paid platform with daily pulls: about 129 a month,…
Loss
Take a pre-foreclosure purchase in a state with an unfamiliar equity purchase statute. An owner about six weeks from a trustee sale, payoff around $214k with $11k of arrears, agre…
Poll
Standing rule in most of the training I've read is that you never reference how you found the owner and you never put their foreclosure in the first line. Lead with help, let them…
Happening Now
Consider a bridge lending scenario like this one. Single family, 1,450 square feet, built 1978, second ring suburb of a Sun Belt metro. Notice of default recorded about 11 weeks e…
Discussion
The pre-foreclosure list most investors buy is built from notice of default filings, which is a specific recorded legal step, not simply the moment an owner misses a payment. A mi…
Discussion
Take a pre-foreclosure purchase agreement where the buyer selects the title company, the buyer pays all closing costs, and the seller agrees not to accept other offers for 45 days…
Loss
A case worth studying: a property manager handling around 60 single family doors gets a notice that one owner client has stopped paying the mortgage on a managed rental, flagged b…
Loss
NOD recorded in a non-judicial state, auction 27 days out when the owner signed with me. Payoff came back at 187,400 including 14,200 of arrears and trustee fees. I agreed to 241k…
Happening Now
Sitting on a JV pitch from a two person outfit that works notice-of-default lists in three counties. They want me to fund the acquisition capital and, separately, a quarter of out…
Discussion
Working on getting licensed and I want to understand this from the ground up before I ever try it. Everything I read says lead with empathy and never mention how you found them. B…
Loss
For anyone new to this channel: a notice of default is the document a lender or trustee records at the county when a borrower is far enough behind for foreclosure to start. It's p…
Poll
Take two counties with roughly 310 new default filings a month between them. Pulling the last 90 days shows what a real campaign costs. Five touches at about 1.10 apiece is 5.50 a…
Win
A notice of default is the filing that starts the foreclosure clock, recorded at the county, which is why lists of these names exist publicly. Arrears means the missed payments pl…
Discussion
Thinking a year out about this strategy is more useful than thinking about one house. The reported first quarter numbers have foreclosure starts up 20 percent year over year to ro…
Poll
Sat with an owner at 27 days to the sale, motivated, no hostility, and I had a one page purchase agreement in the folder with a ten day diligence out. I didn't pull it out. Went h…
Discussion
I do fast flips with thin margins and I want to add this as a lead source, but every course I look at wants four figures before I've seen a single address. What's the real cost of…
Happening Now
Here is a scenario worth working through. Say an investor pays 40 dollars a month for a tool that emails new notice of default filings in four rural counties they know well. Last…
Poll
Running a batch of notice-of-default leads in a single county to both a rent-based ceiling and a resale-based ceiling often produces a striking gap. At a conservative gross yield…
Win
Take a small town case, population under 4,000, a three bed one bath house at 1,180 square feet on 1.4 acres. In a judicial state, notice can be filed 14 months before a sale date…
Discussion
Just started, so I'm probably about to get corrected, but I've been running numbers on published notices as practice deals and the pattern is ugly. Take one: ARV around 320k after…
Win
Finished this one 11 days ago and I want to write down what actually happened while I still remember the order of it. House: 1,320 square foot three bed on a slab, 1991, inner rin…
Poll
A common pattern in pre-foreclosure outreach: the owner clearly does not know their servicer has a loss mitigation department. Take a case with roughly 11k of arrears against some…
Discussion
I do renovation work and I'm trying to understand the pre-foreclosure side properly before I chase any of it. The part I can't get past: the whole pitch is that the owner is about…
Loss
Say a twelve acre parcel with a tired 1960s ranch on it is under notice of default, first mortgage payoff 214k. As-is the whole thing is maybe 235k in that market, so on as-is num…