Happening Now
I'm in escrow on my first property and already drowning in vendor paperwork, and I started looking at VA agencies because I want cold calling and lead management handled before I…
Discussion
Transaction coordination is a good test case for VA economics because the output is measurable: a file either closes on time or it does not, and every missed deadline has a cost y…
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The case worth studying: a $3,000 onboarding fee, a $1,800 monthly seat, six weeks of ramp time before the VA hit anything close to a working pace, then a resignation letter and a…
Happening Now
I'm trying to put a number on this because I'm about four months into an agency seat arrangement, paying $1,850 a month for what amounts to lead follow-up and some transaction adm…
Discussion
The standard agency pitch is that you pay a premium over a raw hire because the training has already been done. Fine. But the harder question is what a trained seat actually retai…
Discussion
A useful example of what a good VA actually produces. Say an agent hands a VA six expired listings in the 92078 zip, all expired within the past 45 days by sellers who priced too…
Happening Now
Here is the bottleneck for anyone running renovation work while investing on the side. Six trades, none of them answering the phone at the same time, and evenings spent texting pe…
Discussion
A pitch deck describing this as asset light, start for under $1,000, is worth treating skeptically. The place to look first is where the cash gap sits, and a business that pays wo…
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Consider an outbound VA program run for eleven months before being shut down, useful to study because the failure was structural and often isn't visible until well into the run. A…
Discussion
Working through whether "AI-augmented" is a real reprice or just vendor capture is worth doing with real numbers. Take a seat that costs $7.50 an hour fully loaded and bills at $1…
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I'm still working out what the first deal costs me, and one of the line items I keep moving around is a part time VA. Budget is about $700 a month, so 15 hours a week at agency ra…
Poll
I've been reading both sides of this for a week and I genuinely can't tell which way to go for a first hire. The agency route: they recruit, they've already trained the person on…
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I've been building a small service offering around agent back office work and last year I finally got the unit economics to sit still, so here's what happened. The product was lis…
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Worth examining as an acquisition channel case: an operator running three VA dialers at roughly $10.50 an hour, about $5,450 a month fully loaded with data and dialer costs, was s…
Discussion
Pricing help for a small off-market list often surfaces a stark comparison. A full time VA seat can run around $1,500 a month. An AI voice agent that dials, qualifies, and books t…
Happening Now
Looking at a small VA agency serving real estate investors, 62 seats billed, asking around 2.4x seller discretionary earnings. Not a property, but it's the kind of service busines…
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Take two proposals for the same scope, roughly 30 hours a week of admin and light lead follow-up. One is hourly at a rate that only bills time logged, with screenshots and an acti…
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Two common agency models sell opposite things. One trains people through a four week program on real estate terminology and common CRMs and charges a premium for it, with the pitc…
Happening Now
I'm reading through service businesses in real estate and this one confuses me more than the others. The agency doesn't own anything and doesn't do the work. They find a person, t…
Discussion
Someone told me that if a VA cold calls a homeowner and starts talking about what I'd pay, that's unlicensed brokerage and I'm the one in trouble. I'm not sure if that's true or i…
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I run rehabs and I wanted a steady flow of seller appointments without me on the phone. Set up an appointment setting desk through an agency in November: two dialers at $11/hr ful…
Poll
A question that gets skipped right up until signing for a seat: the clock. An agency will typically offer either overlap with the client's business day, which for the VA is overni…
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A common pattern worth watching for: signing with a VA agency at a modest hourly rate for 20 hours a week and prepaying a full quarter for a discount, locking in the rate before c…
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Eighteen months ago I was reselling VA hours into small investor shops at $22/hr and losing bids to anyone willing to go to $19. Margin was about 34% and shrinking. I finished the…
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Three property rehab, running about $310k of combined budget, and I moved draw tracking and lien waiver collection to a VA in month two because I was drowning. The process I gave…
Discussion
A common fork for a wholesaler running two campaigns and drowning in follow up. One VA shop wants $1,500 a month flat for a "dedicated seat, full time, 40 hours". The other quotes…
Discussion
Two clients on full-time seats at $13 an hour. One of them sat through an AI SDR demo and came back asking for $9, saying the human is mostly supervising a machine at this point.…
Loss
Take a two seat agreement signed with a VA agency in the spring. Two years later, bringing one of them in house directly triggers an exit cost of $9,400, right there in the docume…
Poll
Been building scripts for the first dialing seat I'm renting and I got stuck on the opening line. The agency gave me a script where the caller uses an American first name and says…
Poll
Take an agency running seven seats across four clients, all billed hourly at $14 to $19, with gross margin sitting around 41 percent. It's a common moment when a couple of clients…
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My agency spent three months building out my renovation pipeline inside their own stack. Draw requests, lien waiver chasing, subcontractor check-ins, all of it running on their au…
Discussion
A pitch landed in front of me for a "full-time real estate VA" at $1,600 a month, 40 hours a week, cold calling and CRM cleanup. Then I went looking on a freelance job board and f…
Happening Now
Here is a live question the room can work through, since the math is not obvious in either direction. An owner of four small rentals spends maybe ten hours a week on work that sho…
Loss
Say an investor with a construction background, not a marketing one, decides to send mail to absentee owners in two counties and hires a VA through an agency at $8.50 an hour to b…