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A case worth studying: bird dog surfaces a distressed duplex, sends the address and seller contact to the investor on a Monday, investor sits on it for three weeks while running c…
Win
That number stopped me cold when he mentioned it casually on a call last week, because the guy who sourced those two deals walked away with more than I made on a flip I spent four…
Loss
A bird dog I was reading about this week had a clean setup on paper: find distressed owner, confirm motivation, hand off contact info and a summary note, collect $350 at first con…
Discussion
I've been doing acquisition sourcing work for a repeat client in the East Valley and I kept waiting until I had a solid buyer relationship to draft anything formal. That worked fi…
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A deal worth studying: a bird dog brings in a motivated seller on a probate property, right contact, right timing, distressed enough to pencil. The investor ties it up, does the i…
Discussion
There is a case worth examining here. Say a bird dog delivers 18 leads over six months, all within a two-mile radius of one submarket. The investor closes on two. At that point th…
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I'm on the buying side so maybe I see this differently. The flipper I lend to privately has sent me a couple of leads through a loose arrangement we have, and two of them were lis…
Discussion
A failure mode worth naming in service sourcing agreements. An acquisitions person gets engaged on a tight buy box, single family under 280k in two specific zip codes with an ARV…
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Here is a question that lenders on small houses run into and rarely resolve. The typical chain is that a bird dog brings an address, a borrower buys it and the lender funds the no…
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I manage leasing and turnovers across about 900 units so my weeks are not predictable. I have been sitting on this idea of scraping notice-to-vacate filings in two or three counti…
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A common observation from investors who pay bird dogs consistently is that the ones who last know which sellers are ready to talk before the seller knows it themselves. Practicall…
Discussion
He buys small multifamily and said if I bring him an address he ends up closing, he pays $500 per door. He wouldn't put it in writing, said that's just how it works and everyone i…
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I'm funding the acquisition side for a partner who buys and flips 6 to 8 houses a year in a mid-size midwest market. Average purchase is around $145k. Two people pitched me last w…
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I have been mapping how the land guys I follow structure their lead delivery and there are two camps that both look defensible on paper, so I want to see where this room lands. Ca…
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Six weeks in and I want to write down what happened while it's still clear. I'd built a list of 340 candidate properties in two zip codes, sourced from a mix of code violation pos…
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Bird dogging tends to get framed as the thing done for six months before wholesaling or buying starts, an internship people assign themselves. But some operators run it as an ongo…
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I want something to show an investor by the end of next month and I've got about $300 and four free weekends. Two ways to spend it and I keep flipping. Option one is data. A list…
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Take an operator running a bird dog lead desk who hires one part timer to handle the phone half while they keep doing the sourcing half. Worth posting the numbers because everyone…
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Wanted the fee structure settled before I had any leverage, so I built something a bit odd and it held up for two quarters. Structure: 175 per accepted lead, client has 5 business…
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Take someone driving older neighborhoods on weekends, noting houses that look neglected, peeling paint, tarps on roofs, mail piled up, and building a list of maybe 90 addresses. A…
Discussion
My scope keeps eating my margin on the renovation work, and now I'm looking at whether feeding leads to other buyers is worth my evenings. What I can't find is a straight number f…
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The first rental is still four months out and I've been filling the wait by working a small pre-foreclosure and code-violation list in one township, partly to learn the market I'm…
Discussion
The common claim is that bird dogging needs no license because the bird dog never owns the property or negotiates the deal. The counterpoint is that a finder's fee tied to a real…
Happening Now
Take a bird dog list built from driving the same four neighborhoods for months, mostly older ranch stock from the fifties. 212 addresses with photos, owner names pulled from the c…
Loss
A common pattern, laid out factually, because it repeats. A new bird dog gets introduced to a flipper through a local meetup. The flipper says he pays 1,000 on any lead of his tha…
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Drafting a service agreement for a lead-finding arrangement usually forces an answer to a question that's easy to avoid otherwise. What is actually being sold? Option one is a nar…
Happening Now
Take an operator who came to bird dogging almost by accident, having started by reading pre foreclosure filings for note leads and finding those filings worth more to house buyers…
Loss
Consider a bird dogging operation running leads for two investor clients buying small multifamily and tired single family in a metro area, paying a driver per delivered address wi…
Loss
Consider a bird dog operation built to serve two investors buying rural and small-town single family, 15 to 90k purchase range, sourcing leads from pre-foreclosure and tax-delinqu…
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Consider a bird dogging operation running three spotters and five investor clients, delivering 74 accepted leads in a strong month. A typical revenue split in that scenario: the l…
Discussion
I've got capital and no deal flow, and two people have offered to send me leads. One wants a flat amount per lead he sends. The other wants nothing up front and a cut when I close…
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Two investors, two completely different answers, same week. The first one told me to send him a couple and if he likes what he sees we'll talk about money. Friendly guy, buys mayb…
Discussion
The retainer model comes up often on the service side for people who want income without capital and without a second full time job. A typical draft looks like this: $1,500 a mont…
Happening Now
Here is a scenario worth working through. A buyer moves slowly and knows it. Two years of looking, no purchase, mostly because the small multifamily they want at the price they wa…
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Cost out what it takes to fund a small lead operation properly and one question refuses to resolve from the outside. The data version: a list subscription, a skip trace vendor at…
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A one page bird dog agreement is often the first red flag by itself, and one clause structure comes up often enough to be worth walking through. Say the fee clause reads $1,000 pe…
Discussion
Numbers as they stand. I drive roughly 20 hours a month and pull a list of pre-foreclosure and long-vacant records, about 300 records filtered down to 40 submissions. I send the s…
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Coming into this with no portfolio and no license, so all I have to sell is the finding. Two people I have talked to run it completely differently and both are getting paid. The f…
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Application is in, exam is scheduled for six weeks out, and in the meantime two investors I met through a rehab crew both want me sourcing off-market houses for them starting in M…
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Take an operator who underwrites every deal that comes in and keeps a clean record of lead source and outcome. A year end cut across 140 leads from four sources can turn up an unc…
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Been billing per lead across three clients since last spring. Two of them are now on monthly retainers and the change came from a spreadsheet I built for my own use, not from anyt…