Discussion
I requested a rent increase on a unit in October. The housing authority acknowledged it, sent something about a 60-day review window, and then went silent. I followed up in Decemb…
Happening Now
$1,340 instead of $1,190, and I only noticed because I was reconciling Q1 against the HAP contract. Told my contact at the authority and she said just send the overage back, no bi…
Discussion
Consider a HAP contract dated October 3rd on a unit where the tenant took occupancy August 19th. That is six weeks of rent the owner cannot bill anyone for, because HAP does not b…
Story
Heard this from another landlord at a meeting in Decatur last Tuesday, and I have not been able to let it go. She said her contact at the authority told her point blank that the t…
Poll
Running numbers on a four unit where three doors would go to vouchers. Payment standard in that submarket lands around 1,240 for a two bed. Market rent on the same unit, from comp…
Poll
For a first small rental purchased mainly for steady income rather than as a second job, there are real arguments on both sides of the voucher question. The case for a voucher ten…
Discussion
Working through an underwriting problem on a 12-unit that a seller describes as 70 percent voucher occupied. Contract rents average 1,180, HAP portion averages 790 of that, so rou…
Happening Now
I've got seven doors, mostly small stuff I bought and fixed over the last three years, and two of them are killing me on turnover. One has had four tenants in 26 months. Every tur…
Discussion
For anyone pricing a voucher compliance service for small landlords, two questions tend to determine whether it is a real offering or a guess. On cost to participate: most public…
Poll
For owners of voucher units, the requested rent amount is one of the more contested decisions at lease-up and turn, and two defensible strategies both work in practice. Asking the…
Discussion
Say a first purchase has narrowed to two single family houses, both around 1,100 square feet, both older, with Section 8 in mind for the payment reliability. Cosmetic items are ex…
Happening Now
The owner whose turnovers and listing photos I handle sent me the payment standard sheet from the housing authority with "1720" circled in pen. Her 3 bed townhouse has been vacant…
Discussion
Most tenancy addendum packets include a line stating that in case of conflict between the addendum and the lease, the addendum controls. Paired with a standard state lease form ca…
Discussion
A common question from owners of a small rental is whether Section 8 units create more or less management work than market rate units. One view holds that voucher units are less w…
Poll
I own nine doors, five of them on vouchers, and all five sit inside a single authority's jurisdiction. That was accidental at first and then it started to look like a feature. One…
Discussion
A common frustration with Section 8 timing: a housing authority will not schedule an inspection until the unit is ready and the tenant has submitted the request for tenancy approv…
Happening Now
Take a scenario worth working through: a performing seller-financed note secured by a 6 unit walkup in a mid-size rust belt city, $340k unpaid balance, 8 percent, 20 year amortiza…
Happening Now
3 bed 1 bath in a small town, $118,000, roof has maybe three or four years left. At the walkthrough the seller mentioned the tenant has a Housing Choice Voucher, has been there fo…
Discussion
These three terms get used interchangeably and they are not the same number. Fair market rent, published by HUD for a market area, is a benchmark the housing authority uses to set…
Discussion
Here is a situation that comes up often enough to be worth working through as a group. Take a two-bed unit in a small portfolio where the payment standard for that bedroom size is…
Happening Now
Here is a scenario worth working through for anyone on the service side of voucher housing. A small landlord fails her voucher inspection twice on the same unit. First visit it is…
Poll
First rental closes in three weeks and I've been writing my screening criteria down so I apply the same ones to everybody. The income rule I drafted is three times the rent in ver…
Poll
A typical first inspection on a small unit comes back with a handful of items: a missing GFCI in the kitchen, a loose handrail, a torn window screen, a cracked outlet cover, a wea…
Discussion
Viewed from the capital side, a voucher is an income stream rather than something to manage, and the rent split is the part that tends to trip people up. The usual description: th…
Loss
I've been building toward the leasing side while I finish licensing, and a small landlord with eight doors asked me to fill three vacant units with voucher holders. He'd been doin…
Discussion
Anyone reading the paperwork side of voucher housing before looking at a property runs into documents that seem to overlap. The voucher itself, the HAP contract and the tenancy ad…
Discussion
A scenario for the room. A housing authority does an annual on a three-unit. Units 1 and 2 pass. Unit 3 fails on bathroom ventilation, the fan runs but the inspector says it is no…
Loss
Take a 1920s three unit in a blue collar pocket of a mid-size metro. Purchase 214k, budget 28k of work, and the plan is to place voucher holders in all three units at once because…
Happening Now
An owner with about 40 doors across a few small buildings asked if I'd take his maintenance calls. Roughly 30 of those units are voucher tenants. He's offering $1,800 a month as a…
Discussion
I've got a duplex under contract and a property manager telling me the housing authority inspection is "free and pretty easy." That doesn't square with a landlord I talked to who…
Discussion
Something isn't adding up in what I've read. Every article says the government pays the rent and that's why Section 8 is safe income. Then I read a comment saying the tenant pays…
Loss
Two years in on the market-rate side and I still managed to walk into this one, so I'll write it up plainly for anyone as new to the program as I was. I bought a small 3BR in a de…
Poll
The pitch for vouchers is that the government portion arrives regardless of what happens to the tenant's job, and that downside protection is worth accepting a rent cap. The first…
Discussion
The rent side is worth understanding before anything else in this program. There is a published number per bedroom count for an area and the housing authority will not approve ren…
Loss
This is a drafting failure worth studying, because it happens to people who write the lease first and read the program documents second. Take an owner papering the lease on a vouc…
Poll
When an annual inspection conflicts with a landlord's schedule, the choice comes down to driving out to meet the inspector at the door versus leaving a key in a lockbox and readin…