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I bought in Cleveland suburbs and the math worked because I was there. Garfield Heights duplex, I was in one unit, tenant in the other, the numbers cleared by maybe $200 a month a…
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A five-room co-living house where room five sits on the ground floor with a private entrance gets pitched as a problem at acquisition, a code question, a liability, a stranger-in-…
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Same subdivision, same bed count, about 400 feet apart. I walked his place exactly once and understood immediately, he had done nothing special to the house itself but every photo…
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The age question is mostly a distraction from the real constraint, which is qualifying income. Take a 21-year-old with a W-2, two years of tax returns, and a 680 score. On an FHA…
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A detached 480 square foot cottage, built for $210,000 all in, appraised at $137,000 on completion. On paper that looks like a destruction of equity. But the owner had purchased t…
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The Phoenix deal is a 2021 vintage refi play, 7% pref, 70/30 split, projected 5-year hold with a 1.7x EM on the deck. My slot would be $50k and I go completely hands off. The Albu…
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The challenge is that the rental is a lifestyle before it is a floor plan, and a single hero shot of a shared kitchen does not tell a prospective tenant anything about what living…
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Trying to figure out if that doubles my startup time before I can collect a dollar. Looking at a 4 bed in Providence and the licensing office told me each room needs its own inspe…
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Bought a duplex in Macon County 14 months ago with a 3.5% FHA down. Lender counted the ADU income at 75% of the appraiser's market rent estimate, which came in at $1,040. So the q…
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Everyone says house hacking is about eliminating your housing cost and that framing is what kept me from buying longer than it should have. I was looking for zero, for the moment…
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I just had a question about co-living versus house hacking and what the difference is. I understood Coliving is renting by the room his house hacking just the same thing but you’r…
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Here is a live scenario worth working through, because it comes up more often than people expect. A buyer is under contract on a triplex in akron, ohio at $312,000 and set to clos…
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The financial side of house hacking gets discussed constantly. What gets almost no attention is that the owner is the landlord and the neighbor at the same time, and that changes…
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This is the argument I keep having with two people I trust and they've never once agreed. Setup. Duplex, $460k, payment $3,300 all in. The other side rents for $1,700. I live in t…
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Take a side by side duplex at 429k, 5 percent conventional owner occupied. PITI plus MIP lands around 3,150. One side rents at 1,750, with market supporting maybe 1,800 on turnove…
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Bought a 1950s ranch for $265k with an FHA loan, 3.5 percent down. It had a walkout basement with its own door to the side yard, which is why I bought it instead of the cleaner ho…
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Owner occupant loan programs, including conventional loans with as little as 3 to 5 percent down and FHA loans down to 3.5 percent, exist because the borrower is going to live in…
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House hacking examples tend to cluster around two shapes, three roommates in a five bedroom, or a duplex where an owner shares a wall and a driveway with a tenant. For a first tim…
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Take a triplex bought two years earlier at 412k, 3.5 percent down, with the owner occupying the smaller back unit. PITI including mortgage insurance around 3,205. Two rented units…
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A common point of confusion on FHA financing for small multifamily is whether the 3.5 percent down applies only to the unit the buyer will occupy. It does not. On a 500,000 dollar…
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I've read the FHA multi-unit path a few times now and it makes sense to me: buy up to a fourplex, live in one, low down payment because you're an owner-occupant. Clear enough. Wha…
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Take a 1950s house with a tenant in a walkout basement that has a full kitchen and its own door. County records show one unit, and zoning allows an ADU under a provision added a f…
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Offer accepted at 296k on what the listing called a duplex. Upstairs is a two bedroom, downstairs is a one bedroom with its own entrance off the side yard. Separate electric, shar…
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Say an owner holds a 1,100 square foot house on a corner lot, free and clear, with a detached two car garage at the back, 480 square feet, sound roof, slab in decent shape, and al…
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Occupancy year is nearly up on the duplex I live in and the plan was always to move out, rent my side, and do it again on a bigger building in the next metro over. Two snags. My l…
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Take a small town market, a two-unit frame building asking 145k. Both sides are 2/1, in-place rents at 700 each with market closer to 750. At 3.5 percent down that is roughly 140k…
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I've been reading listings in two directions for about a month and they lead to completely different lives. Direction one is a small multifamily, duplex or triplex, where I take a…
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Owner-occupant financing requires living in the property for a minimum period, commonly around a year, and what to do once that clock expires is one of the more genuinely debated…
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Looking at a 1,900 sq ft single family with a permitted 1-bed over the garage, already has its own meter. Listing at 465k. Market rent on the ADU looks like 1,450 based on three c…
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Here is a loss worth laying out with its numbers, because every piece of it is avoidable. Take a four bedroom on the edge of a state school town, $340k, 5 percent down on an owner…
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I gut and rebuild for a living, so I lean toward buying the cheaper house and building the rental unit myself. A basement apartment on a house I already own costs me materials plu…
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Bought a 1960s triplex in a first ring suburb for $520k with FHA at 3.5 percent down, so $18,200 down and about $12,000 in closing costs and prepaids. PITI with the mortgage insur…
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Seen from the lender's chair, house hacking is the one owner-occupied product where the borrower's ability to pay depends on a third party showing up with a check every month. A r…
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For a buyer trying to qualify with projected income from an accessory unit on a one unit purchase, the agency rule allowing it existing does not mean the shop on the other end of…
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Every cost breakdown I can find stops at the down payment and closing costs. Nobody lists the running stuff. If I buy a duplex and live in one side, what do I actually sign up for…
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Take a 1974 ranch, 1,480 square feet, asking 389k, with a detached garage that was converted at some point into a studio with a kitchenette, a three-quarter bath, its own entrance…
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The Fannie Mae change that lets a borrower count ADU rent toward qualifying income on a one unit house, up to 30 percent, confuses a lot of house hackers. Take a buyer planning a…
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Reading through the definitions, it looks like two different things got filed under one name. Buying a fourplex with FHA money and occupying a unit is a financing structure with d…
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Closed in the fall on a one unit with a detached studio over the garage, $415k, 5 percent down, owner-occupied conventional. I qualified partly on projected rent from the studio,…
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First time trying this so bear with me. I found a fourplex at 519k, four two-bedroom units, currently rented at 1,100, 1,125, 1,100 and 1,050. I was going to do FHA at 3.5 percent…
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Here is a fourplex that fails the FHA self-sufficiency test by a small margin, worth working through. Asking $520,000, four two-bedroom units, three occupied at $1,250 and one vac…
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Ran the numbers on a house I'd actually buy and the result has been sitting on my desk for a week. Small three bedroom in an older part of town, $315k, 5% down, payment with taxes…
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I said duplex and rental income on the phone and got back a quote for a landlord policy, which confused me because I'm living in the other side. When I said that, the agent said w…
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Take a $540k fourplex, three 2/1s and one 1/1, with market rents on the three rented units totaling about $4,050 combined at current lease comps. One path is FHA at 3.5 percent do…
Discussion
Here is a scenario worth working through. A buyer is closing on a two-unit property with an owner-occupied loan and the loan officer keeps using the phrase principal residence. Th…
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Picture a management book built around house hackers who moved out and kept their rooms rented individually, plus a few owners who never lived in the property and just run five be…
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I've got a spreadsheet going for a duplex in the $300k range, FHA, and every time I think it's finished I find another cost. Right now I have down payment $10,500, closing costs s…