Discussion
One cabin gut, one cosmetic, and I track laundry costs the same way across all my properties because it matters more than people admit. The gut ran about what I expected. The cosm…
Discussion
An ARV is a bracketed estimate built from comps that were already stale the day they closed, adjusted for a condition the appraiser has not seen, in a market that may have moved b…
Happening Now
A purchase price that works for a retail MLS listing at full market value does not necessarily work if you need to move in twelve months and take whatever offer comes. Take a hous…
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Under contract at 138k on a 3/2 in Warner Robins, Georgia. The seller responded to my fourth mailer, which I did not expect because I had written that address off after the second…
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A case worth laying out with the numbers, because the variance is the lesson. An owner owes 187k with an auction 19 days out. The offer goes in at 231k against a 279k ARV with abo…
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I came into this thinking a HELOC was the smarter move because the rate is lower and you avoid points. I have about $60k in equity in my primary in Phoenix, which pencils to maybe…
Discussion
An agent who has sold in a market like the South Bay for six years and watched maybe 400 deals close, including perhaps 30 cosmetic flips, usually believes that means they underst…
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Here is a decision worth working through as a scenario. Say a flipper has 187k sitting in a money market at 4.9 percent, so the opportunity cost of deploying it over 90 days is ro…
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I keep running the math on a 2-bed cape in West Roxbury, asking 489k, ARV probably 615k if I do the kitchen and both baths right. At 70 percent of 615 minus maybe 55k in scope, my…
Discussion
I own a flip in Garfield Heights right now, been sitting at $134,900 for 19 days, and I took the photos myself with a Sony a6000 and a wide angle lens I borrowed from a friend. Th…
Discussion
Take a clean one as the illustration. Bought at 161, 28k in, sold at 224, closing costs on both sides, four months of holding, hard money at 11 percent. That nets out around 13.2…
Discussion
Had a property sit 34 days in phoenix last spring, dropped to 274 from 289, and the agent and I went back and forth about why. Eventually pulled the original photos and compared t…
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Referred a client in phoenix last march, deal closed at 281k, arv was estimated at 340, staging cost me 2,800 out of pocket and the seller walked with less than projected so they…
Discussion
A common first-timer situation: someone from outside the trades tries a cosmetic flip solo, and two questions rarely get a clear answer. First, the house sits empty while paint an…
Happening Now
Helping on the paperwork side of a small flip and the general contractor's proposal asks for 40 percent at signing, 40 percent at what he calls substantial completion, 20 percent…
Discussion
I read the ATTOM number about typical gross returns falling to around 25 percent, lowest since 2008, and my first reaction was that 25 percent sounds enormous. My savings account…
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A common mistake on a cosmetic flip is writing the renovation scope off general research rather than from what actually sells the house. An operator who goes over budget on a firs…
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Take a case where the carpet comes up and there's red oak underneath. Dull, one bedroom has pet stains that went through the finish, but the boards are flat and tight and nothing…
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I don't have a property. I'm trying to build the budget sheet first so I'm not doing arithmetic in someone's driveway. So far I have paint, flooring, light fixtures, cabinet hardw…
Discussion
Rental ownership appeals to a lot of investors precisely because it keeps working without daily attention, which makes the numbers on cosmetic flips worth scrutinizing carefully,…
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Consider a purchase at 291 in a metro that ran hot through 2021 and 2022. 1,900 square feet, 2004 build, everything sound. Scope 34k of paint, flooring, fixtures, kitchen counters…
Discussion
The 70 percent rule is usually stated as pay no more than 70 percent of ARV minus repairs, but the ambiguity is in what the remaining 30 percent is meant to cover, and that ambigu…
Discussion
Trades background, so I've been on plenty of flips as the guy doing the work and never as the guy signing anything. Now I'm reading the other side of it and something bugs me. The…
Happening Now
Take a 1,500 square foot two story bought at 171, with 24 spent on paint, LVP, carpet upstairs, fixtures, and a bathroom vanity swap. All-in comes to 202 with closing and two mont…
Discussion
A common point of confusion for anyone who has worked around flips without learning the vocabulary: everybody says ARV, after repair value, but after which repairs is rarely speci…
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Take a passive lender putting 61k into a light rehab as a secured second behind a hard money first, 12 percent with a 6 point exit fee against a 60 day projected hold. Operator bu…
Discussion
A common question worth working through honestly: does cosmetic flipping actually fit someone's temperament, or does the appeal come mostly from liking before and after photos. Th…
Happening Now
Funding short term paper on light rehabs surfaces a real mismatch in how draw mechanics usually work. On a full gut, framing, rough mechanical, and drywall are each a visible mile…
Discussion
A cosmetic scope of paint, flooring, fixtures, and a light kitchen refresh on a mid seventies house can run into a hard decision the moment an electrician flags a panel brand that…
Happening Now
Take a small two bed cottage, dated but sound, 900 square feet, with a cosmetic budget of $26,000. It is common for an early phase of a project like this to run $4,200 in costs th…
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Still finishing my licensing coursework, so I can't represent anyone yet, but a friend has asked me to look at a house he wants to flip and tell him what it'll sell for after. He'…
Discussion
For someone doing a first cosmetic flip and borrowing most of the purchase price, the honest minimum cash reserve needs to cover more than the down payment. Between the borrower's…
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For someone who has underwritten other people's flip requests for a while and is finally looking at doing one personally, the calculus changes once it's their own capital on the l…
Discussion
When the entire scope is paint, flooring, fixtures, a vanity swap and landscaping, with no wall opened and no system replaced, most jurisdictions require no permit at all, since p…
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This was a rental I got talked into flipping instead, and the arithmetic looked airtight on paper. ARV 288 from three comps within a quarter mile, all closed inside 90 days. Repai…
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My spreadsheet has 340 rows in it from the MLS, and after running the 70 percent rule on all of them, exactly four ever penciled. Both of the ones I offered on went to someone pay…
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Take a 1960s ranch, 1,320 square feet, inherited free and clear, clean inspection, everything functional but dated: wall to wall carpet, wood paneling, an older bathroom, a kitche…
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Run a house as an exercise. ARV that can be defended at 325,000. Cosmetic scope, paint, floors, fixtures, kitchen refresh, call it 35,000 with a little padding. The 70 percent rul…
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Three bed one and a half bath, 1,340 square feet, built 1962, sound roof and a furnace from 2019. Seller wants 148 and will take a two week close. Comps in the pocket are 232 to 2…
Discussion
The number I keep tripping over is the reported typical flip: buy near 260,000, resell near 325,000, gross profit around 65,000, gross return roughly 25 percent, described as the…
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I've been pricing my first deal from the outside for a while and I finally built the daily hold number instead of a lump sum contingency. Interest on hard money at a rate I'd have…
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1,100 square foot ranch, contract at 132, ARV I had at 205, scope I had at 24. First deal, six months of looking, and I got excited enough that I priced LVP and picked a paint col…
Happening Now
I've been running the formula on everything in a 20 mile radius. ARV times 0.70, minus repairs, and that's the most I can pay. On a house listed at 189 where I think ARV is 250 an…
Discussion
I ask the questions I'd have been embarrassed to ask out loud, so here's one with numbers. Underwriting a house where I pulled six comps in a half mile radius, all sold in the las…
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The house is a 1970s three bedroom, everything works, carpet is shot, kitchen is oak with the orange finish everyone hates. Layout is fine. The boxes are solid and the doors are a…
Discussion
Coming from a totally different career so forgive me. I read somewhere that a flip is cosmetic as long as you don't touch plumbing or electrical, and that if you don't open a wall…
Happening Now
Under contract on a 1,480 square foot three bed two bath in a 1978 tract subdivision, midwest, inspection cleared with nothing structural. Original kitchen, carpet over slab in th…
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Compare two finished cosmetic flips in the same metro, different price bands, with nearly identical material specs. Same builder white on the walls, same LVP, same brushed nickel…
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I've been building my scope sheets off walkthrough video and photos, and I'm now arguing with myself about when the sheet becomes final. Two approaches I've watched people use. Lo…